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𝗝𝗢𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡 𝗦𝗧𝗥𝗔𝗨𝗦𝗦 𝗜𝗜 — 𝗗𝗘𝗥 𝗭𝗜𝗚𝗘𝗨𝗡𝗘𝗥𝗕𝗔𝗥𝗢𝗡 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗚𝘆𝗽𝘀𝘆 𝗕𝗮𝗿𝗼𝗻 — 𝗨𝗡𝗜𝗧𝗘𝗟 𝗙𝗶𝗹𝗺 / 𝗗𝗲𝘂𝘁𝘀𝗰𝗵𝗲 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗺𝗺𝗼𝗽𝗵𝗼𝗻 𝗗𝗩𝗗 𝗖𝗼𝗻𝗱𝘂𝗰𝘁𝗼𝗿 — Kurt Eichhorn 𝗦𝘁𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗳𝗶𝗹𝗺 𝗱𝗶𝗿𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗼𝗿 — Arthur Maria Rabenalt 𝗢𝗿𝗰𝗵𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮 — Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart 𝗖𝗵𝗼𝗿𝘂𝘀 —…

𝗡𝗜𝗞𝗢𝗟𝗔𝗨𝗦 𝗛𝗔𝗥𝗡𝗢𝗡𝗖𝗢𝗨𝗥𝗧 & 𝗥𝗢𝗬𝗔𝗟 𝗖𝗢𝗡𝗖𝗘𝗥𝗧𝗚𝗘𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗖𝗛𝗘𝗦𝗧𝗥𝗔 — 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗢𝗠𝗣𝗟𝗘𝗧𝗘 𝗧𝗘𝗟𝗗𝗘𝗖 𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗢𝗥𝗗𝗜𝗡𝗚𝗦 — 𝟰𝟮-𝗖𝗗 𝗕𝗢𝗫 𝗦𝗘𝗧 𝗖𝗗 𝟭 — 𝗪𝗢𝗟𝗙𝗚𝗔𝗡𝗚 𝗔𝗠𝗔𝗗𝗘𝗨𝗦 𝗠𝗢𝗭𝗔𝗥𝗧 𝗠𝗼𝘇𝗮𝗿𝘁: Symphony No. 40 in G minor, K. 550 𝗠𝗼𝘇𝗮𝗿𝘁: Symphony No. 25…

# **Karajan 1980s - The Complete DG Recordings - Box Set 78 CDs ** 𝗖𝗗 𝟭 / 𝗥𝗶𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗿𝗱 𝗦𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘂𝘀𝘀: Eine Alpensinfonie Berliner Philharmoniker · Herbert von Karajan 𝗖𝗗 𝟮 / 𝗔𝗻𝘁𝗼𝗻 𝗕𝗿𝘂𝗰𝗸𝗻𝗲𝗿: Symphonie Nr.2…

𝗞𝗮𝗿𝗮𝗷𝗮𝗻 – 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗽𝗹𝗲𝘁𝗲 𝗢𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗮 𝗥𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗿𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗗𝗚 & 𝗗𝗲𝗰𝗰𝗮 – 𝗕𝗼𝘅 𝗦𝗲𝘁 𝟳𝟬 𝗖𝗗𝘀 𝗖𝗗 𝟭–𝟯: 𝗚𝗲𝗼𝗿𝗴𝗲𝘀 𝗕𝗶𝘇𝗲𝘁 (𝟭𝟴𝟯𝟴–𝟭𝟴𝟳𝟱) 𝗖𝗮𝗿𝗺𝗲𝗻 Agnes Baltsa (Carmen), José Carreras (Don José), José van Dam (Escamillo), Katia Ricciarelli…

𝗛𝗘𝗥𝗕𝗘𝗥𝗧 𝗩𝗢𝗡 𝗞𝗔𝗥𝗔𝗝𝗔𝗡 𝗔𝗡𝗗 𝗕𝗘𝗘𝗧𝗛𝗢𝗩𝗘𝗡’𝗦 𝗡𝗜𝗡𝗧𝗛: 𝗔 𝗖𝗛𝗥𝗢𝗡𝗢𝗟𝗢𝗚𝗜𝗖𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗧𝗨𝗗𝗬 𝗢𝗙 𝗔𝗟𝗟 𝗛𝗜𝗦 𝗠𝗔𝗝𝗢𝗥 𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗢𝗥𝗗𝗘𝗗 𝗩𝗘𝗥𝗦𝗜𝗢𝗡𝗦 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEiJwgcawvI&t=77s (1962) Herbert von Karajan’s relationship with 𝗟𝘂𝗱𝘄𝗶𝗴 𝘃𝗮𝗻 𝗕𝗲𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗻’𝘀 𝗦𝘆𝗺𝗽𝗵𝗼𝗻𝘆 𝗡𝗼. 𝟵 𝗶𝗻 𝗗 𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗼𝗿, 𝗢𝗽. 𝟭𝟮𝟱 “𝗖𝗵𝗼𝗿𝗮𝗹”…

𝗛𝗲𝗿𝗯𝗲𝗿𝘁 𝘃𝗼𝗻 𝗞𝗮𝗿𝗮𝗷𝗮𝗻 - 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗽𝗹𝗲𝘁𝗲 𝗗𝗲𝗰𝗰𝗮 𝗥𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗿𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘀 (𝟯𝟯 𝗖𝗗𝘀) https://www.patreon.com/posts/herbert-von-33-156003270?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link 𝗖𝗗 𝟭 𝗥. 𝗦𝗧𝗥𝗔𝗨𝗦𝗦 Also sprach Zarathustra 𝗖𝗗 𝟮 𝗥. 𝗦𝗧𝗥𝗔𝗨𝗦𝗦 Don Juan; Till Eulenspiegel; Tod und Verklarung 𝗖𝗗 𝟯 𝗕𝗘𝗘𝗧𝗛𝗢𝗩𝗘𝗡 Beethoven: Symphony…

𝐆𝐄𝐎𝐑𝐆𝐄 𝐒𝐀𝐍𝐃 𝐀𝐌𝐀𝐍𝐓𝐈𝐍𝐄-𝐀𝐔𝐑𝐎𝐑𝐄-𝐋𝐔𝐂𝐈𝐋𝐄 𝐃𝐔𝐏𝐈𝐍 — 𝐖𝐑𝐈𝐓𝐄𝐑, 𝐑𝐄𝐁𝐄𝐋, 𝐋𝐎𝐕𝐄𝐑, 𝐌𝐎𝐓𝐇𝐄𝐑 𝐀𝐍𝐃 𝐎𝐍𝐄 𝐎𝐅 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐆𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐓 𝐕𝐎𝐈𝐂𝐄𝐒 𝐎𝐅 𝐅𝐑𝐄𝐍𝐂𝐇 𝐑𝐎𝐌𝐀𝐍𝐓𝐈𝐂𝐈𝐒𝐌 Few figures in nineteenth-century French culture united so many apparently contradictory identities as 𝐆𝐞𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐝. She…

𝐇𝐔𝐁𝐄𝐑𝐓 𝐏𝐀𝐑𝐑𝐘 𝐇𝐄𝐋𝐏𝐄𝐃 𝐑𝐄𝐕𝐈𝐕𝐄 𝐁𝐑𝐈𝐓𝐈𝐒𝐇 𝐌𝐔𝐒𝐈𝐂... 𝐀𝐍𝐃 𝐈𝐍𝐒𝐏𝐈𝐑𝐄𝐃 𝐀 𝐍𝐄𝐖 𝐆𝐄𝐍𝐄𝐑𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍 𝐇𝐔𝐁𝐄𝐑𝐓 𝐏𝐀𝐑𝐑𝐘 𝐇𝐄𝐋𝐏𝐄𝐃 𝐑𝐄𝐕𝐈𝐕𝐄 𝐁𝐑𝐈𝐓𝐈𝐒𝐇 𝐌𝐔𝐒𝐈𝐂... 𝐀𝐍𝐃 𝐈𝐍𝐒𝐏𝐈𝐑𝐄𝐃 𝐀 𝐍𝐄𝐖 𝐆𝐄𝐍𝐄𝐑𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍 One of Britain's greatest musical educators transformed English composition after centuries of…

𝗠𝗼𝘇𝗮𝗿𝘁 — Don Giovanni — conducted by 𝗪𝗶𝗹𝗵𝗲𝗹𝗺 𝗙𝘂𝗿𝘁𝘄𝗮̈𝗻𝗴𝗹𝗲𝗿 (1954) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwysHE1Lx1k Don Giovanni — 𝗖𝗲𝘀𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗦𝗶𝗲𝗽𝗶 Donna Elvira — 𝗘𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗮𝗯𝗲𝘁𝗵 𝗦𝗰𝗵𝘄𝗮𝗿𝘇𝗸𝗼𝗽𝗳 Don Ottavio — 𝗔𝗻𝘁𝗼𝗻 𝗗𝗲𝗿𝗺𝗼𝘁𝗮 Leporello — 𝗢𝘁𝘁𝗼 𝗘𝗱𝗲𝗹𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗻 Masetto — 𝗪𝗮𝗹𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗕𝗲𝗿𝗿𝘆…

𝗧𝗲𝗹𝗲𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗻 – 𝗦𝗶𝗲𝗴 𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝗦𝗰𝗵ö𝗻𝗵𝗲𝗶𝘁 - 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗩𝗶𝗰𝘁𝗼𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝗕𝗲𝗮𝘂𝘁𝘆 – 𝗦𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘀𝗽𝗶𝗲𝗹 𝗶𝗻 𝗧𝗵𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗔𝗰𝘁𝘀 - Braunschweig Version 1728 - 𝗔𝗸𝗮𝗱𝗲𝗺𝗶𝗲 𝗳ü𝗿 𝗔𝗹𝘁𝗲 𝗠𝘂𝘀𝗶𝗸 𝗕𝗲𝗿𝗹𝗶𝗻 - 𝗠𝗶𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗲𝗹 𝗛𝗼𝗳𝘀𝘁𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 https://www.patreon.com/ClassicMusicComposersGroup/posts/telemann-sieg-163223010?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link 𝗟𝗶𝗯𝗿𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗼 𝗯𝘆 𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗛𝗲𝗶𝗻𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗵 𝗣𝗼𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗹…

**Let us welcome the new members:** Rozsa Nagy, Andrei Gennadiev, Manuel Priego, Maria Romanova, Zasei A. Israel, Kinka Kaneva, Khaled Jmel, Qartveli Gruzia, Lela Nozadze, Valter Trevisan, Ana de Andrade, Jeffrey Ambrosini, Perri Sussman,…

𝗥𝗶𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗿𝗱 𝗦𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘂𝘀𝘀 — Arabella - 𝗪𝗼𝗹𝗳𝗴𝗮𝗻𝗴 𝗦𝗮𝘄𝗮𝗹𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗰𝗵 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK0NF6iiG0s 𝗝𝘂𝗹𝗶𝗮 𝗩𝗮𝗿𝗮𝗱𝘆 — Arabella 𝗛𝗲𝗹𝗲𝗻 𝗗𝗼𝗻𝗮𝘁𝗵 — Zdenka 𝗗𝗶𝗲𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗵 𝗙𝗶𝘀𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗿-𝗗𝗶𝗲𝘀𝗸𝗮𝘂 — Mandryka 𝗔𝗱𝗼𝗹𝗳 𝗗𝗮𝗹𝗹𝗮𝗽𝗼𝘇𝘇𝗮 — Matteo 𝗪𝗮𝗹𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗕𝗲𝗿𝗿𝘆 — Graf Waldner 𝗛𝗲𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗻 𝗕𝗲𝗰𝗵𝘁 — Graf Lamoral…

𝗝. 𝗦𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘂𝘀𝘀 — 𝗗𝗶𝗲 𝗙𝗹𝗲𝗱𝗲𝗿𝗺𝗮𝘂𝘀 — 𝗞𝗮𝗿𝗮𝗷𝗮𝗻 𝗚𝘂𝗲𝗱𝗲𝗻 — 𝗞𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁𝘁 — 𝗪ä𝗰𝗵𝘁𝗲𝗿 — 𝗥𝗲𝘀𝗻𝗶𝗸 — 𝗭𝗮𝗺𝗽𝗶𝗲𝗿𝗶 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDPXxJIu9Mc&list=PLIf51lPrqmlinDf-eSQ04MM16b0ukykVv&index=1 𝗛𝗶𝗹𝗱𝗲 𝗚𝘂𝗲𝗱𝗲𝗻 — Rosalinde 𝗪𝗮𝗹𝗱𝗲𝗺𝗮𝗿 𝗞𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁𝘁 — Gabriel von Eisenstein 𝗘𝗯𝗲𝗿𝗵𝗮𝗿𝗱 𝗪ä𝗰𝗵𝘁𝗲𝗿 — Frank 𝗥𝗲𝗴𝗶𝗻𝗮 𝗥𝗲𝘀𝗻𝗶𝗸 —…

𝗥𝗶𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗿𝗱 𝗦𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘂𝘀𝘀 — 𝗗𝗶𝗲 𝗙𝗿𝗮𝘂 𝗼𝗵𝗻𝗲 𝗦𝗰𝗵𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗻 — 𝗞𝗮𝗿𝗮𝗷𝗮𝗻 — 𝟭𝟵𝟲𝟰 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGm3FsBnPEM 𝗟𝗲𝗼𝗻𝗶𝗲 𝗥𝘆𝘀𝗮𝗻𝗲𝗸 — The Empress 𝗝𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝗧𝗵𝗼𝗺𝗮𝘀 — The Emperor 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗰𝗲 𝗛𝗼𝗳𝗳𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗻 — The Nurse 𝗪𝗮𝗹𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗕𝗲𝗿𝗿𝘆 — Barak 𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗮 𝗟𝘂𝗱𝘄𝗶𝗴 —…

Demos la bienvenida a los nuevos miembros. Simon Schieferdecker, Łukasz Lewandowski, Edd Junior, Fred Houpt, Pedro Bonoto, Yuliia Dudarenko, Carlos Alejandro Palacio, Ruxandra Tuchel, Giorgio Ceccarelli, John Chasteen, Erika Haraszti, Nicholas Hopkins, Fernando Araneda,…

Walter Berry - Karl Richter - Matthauss Passion

𝗞𝗮𝗿𝗹 𝗕𝗼̈𝗵𝗺 - 𝗟𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗥𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗿𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘀 - 𝟮𝟯 𝗖𝗗𝘀, 𝗗𝗚, 𝟮𝟬𝟭𝟱 https://www.patreon.com/posts/karl-bohm-late-157856078?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link 𝗖𝗗 𝟭 𝗕𝗘𝗘𝗧𝗛𝗢𝗩𝗘𝗡 — Symphony No. 9 “Choral” Norman · Fassbaender · Domingo · Berry Konzertvereinigung Wiener Staatsopernchor 𝗖𝗗 𝟮 𝗕𝗘𝗘𝗧𝗛𝗢𝗩𝗘𝗡 — Overtures…

𝗪.𝗔. 𝗠𝗼𝘇𝗮𝗿𝘁 - 𝗗𝗼𝗻 𝗚𝗶𝗼𝘃𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗶, 𝗞 𝟱𝟮𝟳 - 𝗞𝗮𝗿𝗹 𝗕ö𝗵𝗺 & 𝗪𝗶𝗲𝗻𝗲𝗿 𝗣𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗵𝗮𝗿𝗺𝗼𝗻𝗶𝗸𝗲𝗿 - 1978 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVyCibesntI 𝗦𝘁𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗠𝗮𝗻𝗮𝗴𝗲𝗿 – 𝗝𝗲𝗮𝗻-𝗣𝗶𝗲𝗿𝗿𝗲 𝗣𝗼𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗹𝗹𝗲 [𝗗𝗼𝗻 𝗚𝗶𝗼𝘃𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗶] – 𝗦𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗿𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗠𝗶𝗹𝗻𝗲𝘀 [𝗗𝗼𝗻 𝗢𝘁𝘁𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗼] – 𝗣𝗲𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗦𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗲𝗶𝗲𝗿 [𝗗𝗼𝗻𝗻𝗮 𝗔𝗻𝗻𝗮] –…

The conductor of the Cleveland Orchestra, 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐧 𝐌𝐚𝐚𝐳𝐞𝐥 with guest soloist, 𝐁𝐢𝐫𝐠𝐢𝐭 𝐍𝐢𝐥𝐬𝐬𝐨𝐧. The Cleveland Orchestra rehearsed at the Opera House today. October 2, 1973. (Photo by Kevin John Berry/Fairfax Media via Getty Images).

𝗕𝗮𝗰𝗵 - 𝗠𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗵ä𝘂𝘀 𝗣𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗕𝗪𝗩 𝟮𝟰𝟰 / 𝗦𝘁 𝗠𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘄 𝗣𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻 - 𝗦𝗼𝗽𝗿𝗮𝗻: 𝗘𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗮𝗯𝗲𝘁𝗵 𝗦𝗰𝗵𝘄𝗮𝗿𝘇𝗸𝗼𝗽𝗳 - 𝗔𝗹𝘁: 𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗮 𝗟𝘂𝗱𝘄𝗶𝗴 - 𝗧𝗲𝗻𝗼𝗿: 𝗣𝗲𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗣𝗲𝗮𝗿𝘀 / 𝗡𝗶𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗮𝗶 𝗚𝗲𝗱𝗱𝗮 - 𝗕𝗮𝗿𝗶𝘁𝗼𝗻: 𝗗𝗶𝗲𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗵 𝗙𝗶𝘀𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗿-𝗗𝗶𝗲𝘀𝗸𝗮𝘂 - 𝗕𝗮𝘀𝘀: 𝗪𝗮𝗹𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗕𝗲𝗿𝗿𝘆 -…

𝗥𝗶𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗿𝗱 𝗦𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘂𝘀𝘀, German composer, known for his operas, which include 𝗗𝗲𝗿 𝗥𝗼𝘀𝗲𝗻𝗸𝗮𝘃𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗲𝗿 and 𝗦𝗮𝗹𝗼𝗺𝗲; his lieder, especially his 𝗙𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗟𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝗦𝗼𝗻𝗴𝘀; and his tone poems 𝗗𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗵 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗧𝗿𝗮𝗻𝘀𝗳𝗶𝗴𝘂𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻, 𝗧𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗘𝘂𝗹𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗽𝗶𝗲𝗴𝗲𝗹’𝘀 𝗠𝗲𝗿𝗿𝘆 𝗣𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗸𝘀, 𝗔𝗹𝘀𝗼 𝘀𝗽𝗿𝗮𝗰𝗵…

𝗠𝗼𝘇𝗮𝗿𝘁 - 𝗥𝗘𝗤𝗨𝗜𝗘𝗠 𝗱-𝗺𝗼𝗹𝗹, 𝗞𝗩.𝟲𝟮𝟲 - 𝗞𝗮𝗿𝗹 𝗕𝗼𝗵𝗺, 𝗚𝘂𝗻𝗱𝘂𝗹𝗮 𝗝𝗮𝗻𝗼𝘄𝗶𝘁𝘇, 𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗮 𝗟𝘂𝗱𝘄𝗶𝗴, 𝗣𝗲𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗦𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗲𝗶𝗲𝗿, 𝗪𝗮𝗹𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗕𝗲𝗿𝗿𝘆 https://www.patreon.com/posts/mozart-requiem-d-137151056?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

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𝗪𝗔𝗟𝗧𝗘𝗥 𝗕𝗘𝗥𝗥𝗬: 𝗔𝗡𝗘𝗖𝗗𝗢𝗧𝗘𝗦 𝗔𝗡𝗗 𝗖𝗨𝗥𝗜𝗢𝗦𝗜𝗧𝗜𝗘𝗦 𝗙𝗥𝗢𝗠 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗟𝗜𝗙𝗘 𝗢𝗙 𝗔 𝗚𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗧 𝗩𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗘 𝗕𝗔𝗥𝗜𝗧𝗢𝗡𝗘 𝗘𝗮𝗿𝗹𝘆 𝗟𝗶𝗳𝗲 𝗶𝗻 𝗩𝗶𝗲𝗻𝗻𝗮 (1930–1950) 𝗪𝗮𝗹𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗕𝗲𝗿𝗿𝘆 (1930–2000) was born in Vienna on 8 April 1930, a city whose operatic traditions…